Good thing no one was hurt! Hard to believe looking at that photo…looks like more OPTAR and TADTAR money to be pinched away to fund unscheduled repairs.
BTW I heard that no watertight doors will close below the main deck on the Port Royal, wonder how feasible it is to fix that???

This yardbird will guess-timate somewhere north of 3 mil. Pertinent question is she scheduled for re-fueling? If we’re talking a couple of years, she might not be repaired.

I wonder if someone could get a few Blue Marlin picks on the site? That ship is pretty amazing!

Wow. That is incredible.

Would love to see the transit around the Horn, going to be “interesting”.

Deja Vu all over again , as in 1986 when Nautilus hits Essex and sheared about 1/4 of our sail off !!! Sheet Happens !!

http://www.owltoons.com/collision_history_new.htm

I assisted the team bringing COLE back on BLUE MARLIN. MSC chartered the BLUE MARLIN when she was owned by OHT (Offshore Heavy Transport). Both MARLINS (BLUE & BLACK) were bought by Dockwise. They have a great website. There are other flo/flo companies & ships out there (none are US Flag), and some of the companies have carried other subs (diesels/nukes) for other countries.

It all depends (if they Navy makes that decision) on the availability of the flo/flo ships. NAVSEA, to their credit, developed a Heavy Lift/Dry Docking unit, (Reservists) that assists NAVSEA with these and other salvage efforts.

Stand by for news.

You call that damage? In 1966 (not 1986) the Big N collided with the Essex. It took the bridge and a lot of metal. No dents in ours.

Jimbo

Thanks for sharing with us, Jim, great to hear from someone who’s been there and done that, and damn neared paid a high price for the tale.

I was on the Nautilus propulsion panel port shaft when the Essex. The Essex screws wre mighty close. Neaves is right, Forseth is of advanced age…..

When will SOMEBODY raise hell over the elemination of
Quartermasters on Submarines? This rate held the CO’s
respect and reinforced our nautical traditions and SEAMANSHIP
from the Bridge to the Attack Center, from Bow to Stern!

BASIC Seamanship is seriously wanting in today’s navy!

571 A-Gang, Lola 1959 – 1962

Indeed, it’s a horrible thing. When the USS Newport News (SSN 750)collided with the Mogamigowa in January 2007, we ended up taking one of her missions. Obviously, other boats are going to have to take up the slack until it’s determined that Hartford is salvagable, or [better put] operational. One issue that people may not understand is that even with all the “new-fangled” gear that boats have now-a-days, it all boils down to who you have on the scope and whether or not the guy can see what sonar MIGHT hear.

I agree (even as a currently active navy submarine Torpedoman) that Quartermasters should never have been “lumped” into the ET rating conversion – just as Torpedoman and Machinst’s Mates. Idiocy.

TMC(SS) – SS581, SSN700, SSN680, SSBN732, SSN719

Jeez, how many 571 guys are on here?

FDNF Squid:

on the PR water tight doors and scuttles. does not close mean not close or won’t pass the chalk test?

biiiiiig difference.

not passing chalk test is pretty common especially after heavy weather sailing, thats why they have those really thick rubber gaskets on them, warped so badly that you can get a finger in the gap means cut the door out and probably replace it. (theres a fsn for doors in a box out of mechanicsburg. should pass the chalk test laying on the pier.)

C

How could no one in Control see that thing coming? What is the port royal??? Hartford hit the New Orleans, which happens to be the newest ship in the Navy! I do agree…someone(more than one) is getting a desk job. For those of you who have knowledge about nuclear submarine makeup you’ll get a real kick out of some of the Anti-nuclear articles about this incident. I have a good feeling the Hartford will be coming back o the US on her own power. I also foresee a lot of sailors being bored out of their minds in Bahrain for a while.

Looks like all the most sophisticated electronic gear in the
world and continuous on going training (24-7) doesn’t mean
a thing without PEOPLE taking a real sense of responsibility
for their professional actions. Sad state of affairs…indeed.
And YES, the loss of the Quartermaster Rating was just another
nail in our “politically correct coffin”. Is a submarine still
a submarine without a Quartermaster? IMHO the Quartermaster
Rating was one of the best in the Navy. Praying for safe passage
of both crews. Carry on!

i served 5 years as a machinist mate, and the one and only boat I ever served on was the USS Hartford, and it kills me to see her like that. As far as being repaired goes, if that can’t be repaired, salvaging off other ships is a real possibility. In 2003 the hartford ran aground off italy, screwed up her rudder, propeller, and a few other systems. A lot of the repair parts came from the USS Baltimore, decommissioned in 98. Thus the Hartford is a 688i with the rudder of a 688. So salvaging is a possibility, and I would hate to see her decommissioned. As for the cause of this mess, it may be biased opinion, but I find it hard to believe someone on board the Hartford could mess up this badly. I get the feeling the Navy is simply not revealing all the facts for some reason.

When a submerged submarine hits a surface ship, someone on the sub screwed up. Can anyone think of an instance where that was not the case?

If they RTP CONUS on the surface with no scopes, they are taking a big chance on the weather. There are conditions in which the bridge cannot be manned. Comments?

Well, to Pearl, it’s BACK through the SoH, east through the IO, and either the long, long way around Oz to keep deep water, or knuckle bite the other way. Going west would take a long damn time. Serious suckage, any way you look at it.

3 Yards have bids in on us, personally im hoping EB gets it, (i dont feel like moving again). also PNSY and PHNSY. Im hoping the Navy wont send us to pearl, and furthermore, if we go there, ill never go to sea again on this tour.

greetings from Bahrain.