In support of Chris’s post, let’s dig at this a bit more.

Via FT; once again, when our prostrate, financially starved, and materially deficient allies say this,

“We must not tolerate this regime using military force against its own people,” David Cameron, UK prime minister, said. “In that context I have asked the Ministry of Defence and the Chief of the Defence Staff to work with our allies on plans for a military no-fly zone.”

What they really mean is, “America, will you please do the heavy lifting?  We will try to help with what little we have, but be a good sport.”

Want to make this an international effort?  I won’t even start to discuss the UN route – as to get to that point is just too difficult and like Darfur, by the time someone can craft a deal, there will be no one to save.  Anyway, really?

You can also think NATO, but I think that is off the table already.

… Recep Tayyip Erdogan, prime minister of Turkey, which has the second largest standing army in Nato, on Tuesday rejected intervention by the western alliance in Libya as “unthinkable”.

“Can you even consider such an absurdity?” Mr Erdogan said at a conference in Germany when asked about calls for Nato to intervene in Libya. “As Turkey, we’re against this, this can’t even be talked about, it’s unthinkable.”

Russia and France also opposed military action, with Paris saying humanitarian aid and cutting off Col Gaddafi’s funding sources should be the priorities.

Once again – NATO devolves to the lowest common denominator, even in their own back yard.

Coalition of the willing it is.

No serious person is talking about putting boots on the ground to engage in ground combat the Libyan rebel forces are more than willing to do – I think the most aggressive thing inside the “possible” bubble is a no-fly zone in Libya (NFZ-L) so Gaddafi’s air force cannot do their will on civilians and rebel forces.

Senators John McCain and Joseph Lieberman called last week for NATO countries to impose a no-fly zone over Libya to prevent air attacks by Mr Gaddafi on opponents who have wrested control of large parts of the country from him.

According to Colonel David Lapan, a Pentagon spokesman, US military planners are working on “various contingency plans … [and] repositioning forces to be able to provide for that flexibility once decisions are made”.

Let’s make some initial draft Planning Assumptions (PA) assuming that the CINC directs the establishment of a NFZ-L, here’s my first three:
- PA-1: The ENTERPRISE CSG and KEARSARGE ESG now in the Red Sea successfully transit Suez.
- PA-2: Tanker, AEW, and EW/ES aircraft have full basing rights in Sigonella, Souda Bay, at British bases in Cyprus.
- PA-3: ITA, ESP, and GBR are willing to contribute Navy and Air forces.

Let’s go to the chart, shall we?  You can click it for a larger version.

Of those allies with the most pressing concern in the Mediterranean, we already know TUR, and FRA are non-players.  GRC?  Child please.  There goes your most of your Med nations.  Who else can help that isn’t already on holiday?  GBR, ITA, ESP, with perhaps a dog or cat from other NATO air forces up north may help, but they have very limited reach and a very shallow bench. Even with the USAF, you cannot effect a sustained NFZ-L using ground based aircraft – even if you limited it to the Tripoli and Benghazi. Especially when you can bet a paycheck that ROE will require visual ID and sustained observation of suspect activity; no. Add to that the requirement for CSAR, and no again.

There is only one way to do this: Carrier Aviation.  American Carrier Aviation.

One carrier cannot do this alone unless you have very low ambition and expect very little in the way of tasking. You should have one station to the east, one to the west. If you are talking big deck CVN – you really need two to keep one station for any length of time. To keep two stations, four – but if you can get some limited land-based air support for some cycles – maybe get by with three?

Let’s be realistic.  We are not going to get four CVN or even three.  Two then?  I vote no.  We’re tapped out.

If you had plenty of support and just a few AAW CAPs up – we could get by with just one … if for only a short time. Hope? Feh, not a plan – so be modest in your ambition.

OK, let’s go to NFZ-L with the Global Maritime Partnership we have, not that we wish we had.

Would we give a station to our allies? Of the remaining folks, GBR, ESP, & ITA have CVS, right?  Well, the Brits don’t do CVS counter-air anymore – and the Italians and Spanish carriers? How many sorties can they do? How about if they had a lot of land based fighter support?  How many fighter aircraft need to be stationed at Sigonella supported by how many tankers to cover Tripoli? Same question about Souda Bay and Benghazi. The British bases on Cyprus?

UK officials said they could use of a British military air base in Akrotiri, Cyprus to enforce a no-fly mission. “Akrotiri would be very useful if we wanted to deploy,” said an official. “That would seem most logical.”Although fixed-wing aircraft appear to be depleted, British officials said the main concern was that Col Gaddafi could use helicopters to mount bombing raids on opponents.

Thanks, but … look at that transit – tanker and AEW/ES only. That is about the same distance as from Masirah, Oman to Southern Afghanistan.

There is the problem – but we have a solution, the one a lot of smart people are going to try to make work. We will have do a limited NFZ-L with Big E and the KEARSARGE ESG. Not the way it should be done, but good enough for show.

On alert, using limited CAPs and relying on ready aircraft. Our allies may be here and there and will be able to help on the margins – but they have neither the ability or political will to do much more. They have proven over and over that they are less concerned about their backyard than we are – either that are they are just too used to us solving their big problems – and if we don’t – they will just hope for the best.

My guestimates on the back of a notepad are very rough – but probably within a standard deviation. Do them yourself. The tyranny of distance and allied defense budgets are beyond our control but are critical planning factors you cannot get around.

Once you ponder that some, remind yourself and others the importance of a CVN – and use this other little tool in discussions of the utility of CVN.  Off Libya soon may be the USS ENTERPRISE (CVN-65), commissioned on 25 NOV 61 – almost 50 years ago.  On the western side of Libya is the former Wheelus Air Force Base.  How is that base working out for us?

Quadaffi

UPDATE: SECDEF Gates throws some cold water on Prime Minister Cameron, and seems a bit off key with SECSTATE Clinton.

The U.S. and allies have discussed the prospect of imposing a no-fly zone over the North African country to prevent Col. Gadhafi from using air forces to strike at protesters. But Mr. Gates on Wednesday made clear the U.S. military would have to launch pre-emptive strikes to destroy Libya’s air defenses if President Barack Obama ordered the imposition of a no-fly zone,

“Let’s just call a spade a spade,” Mr. Gates said. “A no-fly zone begins with an attack on Libya.”

Mr. Gates’s words were the strongest public indication of skepticism within the administration about establishing a no-fly zone, especially without broad international support.

In recent days, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has spoken supportively of a no-fly zone. Asked about the apparent contradiction between Mr. Gates’s comments and Mrs. Clinton’s remarks, Jay Carney, the White House spokesman, said Wednesday that the no-fly zone is being “actively considered.”

I think SECDEF Gates has reviewed COA-1, COA-2, & COA-3 and realized the risk-reward is just not where it should be. Just because you can do something, doesn’t mean you should do something. Right call.

To paraphrase the Great Bismark; Libya is not worth the bones of a single Pomeranian grenadier.




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  • Derrick

    I believe the topic of the blog post was to discuss the following question:

    If ordered to enforce a No-fly Zone over Libya, could the US do it without at least 2 CVNs?

    I believe that was to be the framework for the question.

    From what I can understand, I believe the answer is no.

    As for whether the US should be involved in this or not, well, given that it seems conclusive that the US does not have 2 CVNs to spare, then given resource constraints, the US won’t be able to be involved in any type of no-fly zone over Libya, if someone were to suggest it. Therefore it is irrelevant as to whether the US should be involved in Libya or not as clearly the US does not have the military resources for it.

  • Liz

    One thing I didn’t see touched on here (unless I missed it) was phase inspections. Periodic phase inspections are critical to aircraft maintenance and those can take the planes out of commission for a week or more. The more flight hours the planes undergo, the more frequent the inspections…they might be postponed, but they can only be postponed for so long and then the planes start to fall out of the sky. Furthermore, the increase in flight hours decreases the life expectancy of the planes, all of which budgetting previously accounted for has to be re-evaluated. There are more “costs” than just logistics and fuel.

    Also expect Gaddafi to make liberal use of human shields around his anti-aircraft capability, to offer the propaganda coup of lost mothers and babies. All to take out 5-10 percent of Gaddafi’s military capability to offer the rebels and advantage (and what are their aims, longterm, anyway?).

  • sid

    Liz…Thats another lesson the USN has ignored from its past.

    When VR-6 and VR-8 got 48 hours notice that they had to collect all their aircraft from across the expanse of the Pacific, from Barksdale to Iwakuni, and head east to France to support the Berlin Airlift…They also brought east their own depot level maintenance.

    It was that forward deployed maintenance that allowed the USN squadrons to best the USAF in terms of tonnage delivered

    I’ve watched in dismay as the USN has first essentially dismantled its deployable maintenance assets for NavAir…And has extended that wrong headed trend to the next generation of maintenance heavy ships…

    You’d think the USN leadership thinks they are running a civilian “Enterprise” like an airline or ferry service…Or something… Instead of a mobile fighting force able to fight across the seas.

  • sid

    (fixed with better link)

    It was that forward deployed maintenance It was that forward deployed maintenance that allowed the USN squadrons to best the USAF in terms of tonnage delivered…

    THE STORY of how Navy transport squadrons VR-6 and VR-8 stepped
    into the Berlin Airlift and began setting records for freight carrying has been told. Behind the scenes is another story, not too glamorous, but just as necessary to keep the planes flying,
    the story of engineering.
    On a few hours notice, the squadrons were uprooted from Hawaii and Guam and sent halfway around the world to feed Berlin. When they arrived in the middle of winter, conditions in Germany
    were rugged. Let VR-8′s Engineering men tell their own story:
    The tasks confronting us were: reorganization to fit the need of the job, establishment of shops, nosebays, working and office spaces and the immediate and pressing requirement of keeping 12 aircraft in the air. After balmy Hawaii, even the elements appeared hostile as we combatted the cold and MUD. Concrete
    taxiways and hardstands were something you encountered further towards the center of things; we are on the end of the line.

  • sid

    You’d think the USN leadership thinks they are running a civilian “Enterprise” like an airline or ferry service…Or something… Instead of a mobile fighting force able to fight across the seas.

    To my point

    The Navy’s top officer has announced that the service, after some study, will embark a detachment of civil-service mariners on a yet-to-be named amphibious ship during the next year. The trial will test the feasibility of “hybrid crews” aboard amphibious ships, a drastic change under consideration as the Navy tries to cut runaway manpower costs.

    A few years hence…and another situation like that along the northern periphery of Africa presents itself…What kind of legal -and cultural- troubles will there be when a hybrid civ/mil crew is expected to close a hostile shore to execute an opposed NEO?

    Instead of training up a sustainable military seaborne force, seem that its more important to wage Stalin style purges over half decade old videos, and making sure that post-DADT is implemented “easily” into the USN”s incredibly shrinking fleet….

    Heck, why not just take the whole process to its end and outsource the whole Influence Through Seapower gig to the Chinese?

  • Byron

    Sid: The smart young YN2 Gauthier asked ADM Harvey if CIVMARs would be running engineering on amphibs. The following is Harvey’s reply:

    ADM J. C. Harvey, Jr USN said…
    YN2, I did indeed get underway and it was a great feeling! It was a fine day to be at sea on a great ship.
    My intense interest in how the MSC mans and operates their ships stems from the success they’ve had in establishing a very high level of operational reliability, particularly with respect to their diesel engineering plants. Even with the obvious differences in the manning models between MSC and Navy and the starkly different mission requirements, there’s much to be learned from how they train, how they stand watches and how they operate their ships. That’s been my goal – TO LEARN! And then to see how we can apply what we learn to the Navy.
    As capable and professional as they are, I don’t foresee the day when we turn over our amphibious ships to be operated by the civilian mariners of our MSC. But I certainly do foresee the day when we can apply many of their best practices to how we do business and improve the operational reliability of our amphibious fleet.
    Which is a worthy goal in my book. All the best, JCHjr

    I think it’s plain what the intent is here. Harvey wants to find out how CIVMARS run Engineering and apply lessons learned to the Navy’s Engineering departments.

  • http://cdrsalamander.blogspot.com CDR Salamander

    Derrick & Sid: +1

  • Steamboat Bill

    The real question is: Even if we wanted to, could we do it? Don’t forget CVNs are loaded with Hornets and no longer embark EA-6Bs, tankers or Tomcats (Thank you Dick Cheney). As a result, our CVNs are a lot less capable than they were when they had these air assets aboard.

    Steamboat Bill

  • USNVO

    Steamboat Bill,
    EA-6Bs are still part of the airwing, buddy tanking is done with the F-18Es (not to mention that USAF Tankers would be available) and while the F-14 is gone, the sortie generation potential over time is actually better with the current mix of F-18E/F than with the F-14. Now when you talk long range ASW, SSSC, and fleet air defense we are down from previously.

  • Hans York

    For what it’s worth, as a 40 years ago Ops sgt. I have to agree that the cost/loss is not with us. NATO countries show approx. 4750 fighter/attack planes in inventory, Libya 315. Concur few would join us.
    Absent Durandals in inventory, we’ve given up much of our runway reduction capacity.
    Otto von Bismark, however, was a politician who spent a great many Pomeranian grenadiers on foolish courses.

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